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Topic: Depression: Creative Outlet >> Discussion: what life really is. (by desity (MSN))

Re: what life really is.
by wildgirl418 (WebMD), 1/5/01 8:47 PM

Hey, you sound just like me about a year ago. Me and my dad never got along, hes an alcoholic. He abused me, emotionally, and a little physically. He really neglected me alot too. For the past few years I have been struggling with anxiety and depression. Most recently I started having suicidal thoughts, and I tryed to kill myself several times. I ended up in alot of mental hospitals, and it really sucked. But what I want to tell you is there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it will get better. Especially if you try and get counseling, maybe you even need medication, I did. After a year of therapy, I'm happier now than I have ever been. Things aren't perfect, but I want to live. And you will to, don't be afraid to ask for help. Call a crisis line like act now or call 911 if you have to. Just don't kill yourself theres people out there who care, just look for them. I've been there, and I understand. If you want to talk email me at wildgirl418@aol.com, or im me on aol instant messanger. Don't give up, good luck.

Re: what life really is.
by mentalgrowth (WebMD), 1/6/01 5:49 AM

Depressions should not be taken as negative but messages from Creator. First, look at it as if it is a lesson where you did not express your anger properly and if that is not it which most likely it is then look at the depression as if it is the pain coming from waking up to the reality of how many years you have been in denial about your personal "corrupt life".... and it's time to wake up. It takes a lot of pain and suffering to see how wrong you have been for so long. You avoided so many years of any consciousness (conscience) that it sooner or later comes to a head. Face the pain, suffer somewhat without drugs and be truly sorry. www.mentalgrowth.com has solved many problems
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Topic: Depression: Creative Outlet >> Discussion: what life really is. (by desity (MSN))

Re: what life really is.
by mentalgrowth (WebMD), 1/6/01 5:59 AM

There had been a book written on how to commit suicide and it had become a hit. It's hard to believe how sick and evil our society has become!

I have written in my volume II,how not to commit suicide. This volume is not in print yet, only Volume I. Go to www.mentalgrowth.com and look for it.

Raising one's consciousness is the answer to every problem. How you do it is very important and available. It takes getting rid of ego and its support systems. Not needing anything but prefering to have things and coming to grips with your spirituality rather than being carnal and sensuous. We are all addicted to things and when you no longer get a "feeling" out of everything you become free of it's control over you. I recommend: realizing the truth, recognizing its source and finally to feel truly sorry about how you judged it, known as repentance. When you can really do this all is well.

In response to:
Awakening of consciousness
by bayuelo2 (WebMD), 1/3/01 10:49 PM
: Some times when you stare into the eyes of an unknown one your mind dives to the velocity of intense speed falling,falling into memory seeking to find a purpose of mortality trying to question your identity for the sake of mankind in its most darkest times of present future. Where the winds blow with the deemed voices who dare not speak in human tone. As it has been told since the dawn of time to show a face where doom meets its own foretold fate; time. It is truly the matter of unforgiven to meet face to face with the lurker who drinks the dark and does not pay a penalty of supreme refuge. It only warns you in the darkest day at the the darkest time of your life. Alas I see before me an image of thy enternal vow which will never tell of evil deed written on carved stone. those who show before me leave at once and never reveal you most torching words of disgust towards the one before thee to seek the sacred relic that lies as a burden which has sent upon at birth. he who call out for me will be heard and saved,then judged as a man with complete as most graceful character. ho in front there lies the fagile one who most never be laid or voiced to, written to, and most finally acted upon. I who you dare play with will show how you have mostly destructed the most fine and apolic with the hands of hell have sworn to give thee messege and grow within the time which must be prayed with the blessed scar which is deeply wounded. And look at the sky to see the blinding light witch raves through the clouds who so ever move in swift night. I will not and aswell shall not suffer but to make a fatal strike which will set over this most deprived plant blazing with a swelled dome that ripes out what is called "unnatural selection" . and those who at any cost try to stop me will be led to their utmost destruction. Let the world beware. Thee ill will be heard.
DR.ROY FOSTER: I would become depressed just reading so much intellectual trivia. Words are the main source and medium for evil to lurk in the thought process. The intellectual mind tends to be controlled by evil because the ego iteself, displaces Creation. Knowledge and the growth of the intellectual mind harbors and protects the ego and even helps to make it grow, through the words themselves as they become images in the mind to idolize, in the intellectual mind of course. Beware of the word:
"Words can destroy". The natural way to think is wordless and only actions count not what one thinks (we actually sin in the thought itself). We have our natural Creator's senses and we must not forget them that is if they still are hanging around. They are intuition, perception and common sense and none of these take lots of words they should just become accomplishments.

 

Topic: Depression: Creative Outlet >> Discussion: TRUTH2 (by MASTERGODOFALL2 (MSN))

TRUTH2
by MASTERGODOFALL2 (MSN), 1/3/01 9:30 PM

MMMM..ALIVE,FRESH,LIVING,BREATHING,SEEING,SMELLING,TOUCHING,TASTING,GOOD 2 B BACK.MY HEART SING'S,NATURE IS CALLING,SPRING IS ALMOST HERE.WARMER WEATHER,BIRDS IN FLIGHT,SQURRAL CHASING EACH OTHER.TREE'S BUDDING,FLOWER'S IN BLOOM.A WARM GENTLE BREEZE.THE WINDOW DOWN IN THE CAR, RADIO PLAYING OUR SONG.SWEET MEMORIES,PLANNING TO BE TOGETHER 2 NITE.SEEING YOUR SMILE.MAKING YOU LAUGH,THE ONE WHERE YOU HOLD YOUR BELLY,UNCONROLABLE,THINKING YOUR GOING TO DIE LAUGHING.HOLDING HANDS,BY THE BEACH.BETIFULL SUNNY DAY,TRYING TO MAKE SENCE OF THE CLOUDS....EATING OUR FAVORITE FOOD'S.LOOKING INTO EACH OTHER'S EYE'S.THINKING........MY TRUE-LOVE.THINKING OF RETIRING TO THE BEDROOM.UNDRESSING EACH OTHER..SLOWLY....ANTICIPTION..MAKING LOVE SLOWLY. IN NO HURRY.WE HAVE ALL NIGHT.KISSING,CARESSING,SOOOO SWEET.YOU COME 1ST.THEN I FOLLOW SUIT.LAYING BACK ,TALKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE 2 GETHER.PLANING WHAT TO CALL OUR KIDS.PICKING OUT THEIR NAME'S.WHAT SCHOOL'S THEY'LL GO TO.WHAT THEY SHOULD STUDY,GET A DEGREE IN.BEDTIME STORY'S.TUCKING THEM IN AT NIGHT.SNEAKING IN THEIR BEDROOM'S, WHILE THEY SLEEP.THINKING WERE BLESSED.........LOVE YOU CARRIE....

DR.ROY FOSTER: There is only one absolute truth. The many truths which we have known all of our lives have been devil-oped (created) based upon our trauma conditioning and we have all experienced traumas. Truths and opinions are correlated because once one establishes an opinion after many trauma experiences how one then perceives the truth always changes based upon how one feels about that particular experience. This leads to self-denial and then one's own truths which have little to do with the absolute truth which comes from Creator. In actuality, Creator equals absolute truth and absolute truth is self-evident to the fact that a Creator does exist. To truly perceive absolute one must have a blind faith within a spiritual realm and it takes reprogamming all of that trauma conditioning to go back to the innocent state of mind we all once had. Yes, it can be very painful.
www.mentalgrowth.com has had the solutions for now ten years. Yes, it takes years to raise one's consciousness to the absolute truth. Notice how the "liberal mind-set" has no absolute. You know now who controls that mind!

Message for Whatsreal
by saturnschild (WebMD), 1/2/01 11:51 PM

Loved your poem and I know your words are true but when I look inside myself all I see is this big black pit of emptiness. I am so depressed tonight, feel like my heart is just so heavy that it is sinking out of sight. My eyes burn with unshed tears and I feel so alone, so unloveable. I wonder why I even try to find love when it hurts so damn bad. How many times can a heart get broken before it just breaks right in two. The pain of rejection is almost too much to bear and all I ever wanted was someone to talk to, someone to care.

DR.ROY FOSTER: I had been in that position about 25 years ago. It took me a while to realize the absolute truth about my life and me, and to recognize the source of the problem, childhood trauma conditioning,and then to go through the years of repentance. You see, without reaching into your spiritual realm you are lost. We were born spiritual beings however to be corrupted into animals (carnal and sensuous) unable to reach into our true inner self and conscience (consciousness).
I wrote my first book and published it myself unable to find a publisher because the truth scared them. I wrote the book because my life's experiences and discoveries needed to be available in a legacy. I then created www.mentalgrowth.com and it contains hundreds of pages of enlightenments. I hope that some of this will help you. God bless.

waiting
by Ardeidae (WebMD), 1/1/01 7:01 PM

Some evenings, I wait by the window as if - any moment now- maybe after the sun sets or the rising of the moon - or in the silent hour before midnight - as if the one I love - who loves me too - as if he's about to stride up to my door any minute now. A ghost love, imagined never met. This waiting distracts me from my sorrow, which - any moment now - will return - and daylight fades.

DR.ROY FOSTER: You do not need to wait. Go for it. It's there for you. You used to have it and you can find it again through conscious awakening. I discovered amazing things about how the mind really functions and if you discover this too you no longer will need to wait.

Re: I am me
by wildgirl418 (WebMD), 1/1/01 2:42 PM

Hey , loved your poem. Exactly how I feel. Everyone should just except you for who you are no matter what. check out bipolar aliens. Little bizarre but hope u like it.

DR.ROY FOSTER: One should never be accepted for only what one is. The reason is that we are corrupted individuals who carry a burden. The burden is that which is incorrect in us. What corrupted us can never correct us because in the first place it would never have made you into a victim therefore making no sense to think of correction. You then walk around an uncorrected undisciplined being. How then could a correct individual accept such a human entity full of burdens and corruption. Only an uncorrected and corrupt individual would do such a thing. Yes, it is possible for correct one's to accept you as a person but never to accept your incorrectness. This is absolute love and the love we do not find too easily in this world of ours. My love is now at my website www.mentalgrowth.com and you might discover some amazing things there that should enlighten you.

Bipolar Aliens
by wildgirl418 (WebMD), 1/1/01 2:13 PM I have my own theory on aliens. Check www.mentalgrowth.com

Crazy bright colors swirl through the room And I think the aliens are being consumed. Why did they laugh? They shouldn’t have, and wouldn’t be dead. They couldn’t help it they said, They were insane in their brain. It was all but a game, Lost in all the fame, Why is life so lame? Only the little people know, The ones that are low to the floor, But they see so much more. Catch us if you can if you can, They were never seen again, again. Over and over she searched the ground, the little people were never found. The keys don’t match, The locks don’t latch, It don’t make sense, It not supposed too, dense. Crazy as it seems, Follow your dreams. The little people are watching, And waiting Debating over how to cut off your arm, Wouldn’t that ruin their charm. We are taking the little people to the place, Ya know the place. They don’t belong here, They’ll be put away, That’s where they will stay. Until we say its okay come out and play. Dumb as a brick, They think they’re smart as a lick, But they will get their ass kicked by the little people. Regardless of the crime They bite the bullet every time, And another one bites the dust, And they all will rust, In the psycho lust of the little peoples world.

DR.ROY FOSTER: I get a lot of "feeling" from your post and expressions. I am not sure where you are going with this and do not have time to truly study it. It's deep. I'll take another look at it later. God bless.

A
by Trampolineone (WebMD), 1/1/01 1:27 PM

I remember my Landon Junior High School seventh grade math teacher's name very well. It was "Mr Young" and he stood out because the kids use to make fun of him because he was missing one of his fingers and always pointed at students with his middle finger.

I was not very good in school anyway and English and Math were my worst two subjects. There was just something wrong with me, inside my head and no matter how hard I tried I just could not figure out why I could not understand what all the other kids found so easy to learn. I don't think that there was ever a day that I went to school that I was not afraid and scared.

One day I was told by Mrs. Winters, the head matron of the Children's Home Society Orphanage that if I got one more "E" on my report card that I would be taken to the Juvenile Court in down town Jacksonville, Florida and that she would tell the judge to send me away to the big prison for kids.

I tried real hard for weeks and weeks to learn how to multiply and do fractions and compound things. But I just couldn't understand how to make different parts of numbers into whole things. I really tried too, but my brain just couldn't do it no matter how hard I tried.

The day before report cards were to come out I knew that Mr. Young would give me an "E" grade just like he always did, because no matter how hard I tried I just could not understand anything that he talked about in math class.

After class ended I went up to Mr. Young and I told him that the orphanage was going to send me to the big prison if I got another "E" grade on my report card. He told me that there was nothing that he could do because that would be unfair to all the other kids if he gave me a better grade than I had actually earned.

I smiled at him, turned and walked towards the door and then I stopped. I turned around, looked at Mr Young and I said "Mr. Young you know how all the kids make fun of you because your missing your finger?" He just looked at me, moved his mouth to one side like he was biting the inside of his gum and he did not say a word. "They shouldn't do that to you because you can't help not having a finger Mr. Young. Just like I can't help not being able to learn numbers and stuff like that", I said. He said not a word as he looked down at his desk and began grading papers.

The next day when I got my report card I tucked it into my school book and on the school bus I opened the report card envelope and I looked at my grades which read: Geography "B+", Mechanical Drawing "C-", English "D-", History "C-", Gym "B+", Art "C", Math "D-".

That "D-" math grade was the most favorite grade that I ever received in my whole entire life. Not because I didn't get sent to the big prison for kids. It was because I knew that someone in the world finally understood what it was like for me to be missing a finger inside my head.

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Without You by dreamheart (MSN), 1/1/01 1:31 AM ....... Sometimes I think that you are just a dream that I had, a happy dream,a dream of love that existed only in fairytales. But the break in my heart and the ache in my soul tell me all to well that infact you were my reality. Is there a chance for us to reunite? Only God in heaven above can know for sure. In my heart of hearts I pray for us to be together once again,forever. For I am lost without you,a mere shell of my former self. No love,no joy,no laughter,only pain and emptiness. Without you I will never love again, my heart is cold steel. For you are my soulmate and without you,I am incomplete.

DR.ROY FOSTER: Without Creator (God) there is always an emptiness and a yearning to something missing in one's life.
The "you" that you speak about can only be Creator. If the "you" is a person or thing, it will never be resolved within the "without you". You can always have a need to have a person or thing fill some gap in your life but once you believe that you have found it you sooner or later discover that it is still not what you want. The fullfilment of one's life is when one discovers purpose and that one can eliminate one's ego without any uncomfortable feelings and then and only then can one raise one's consciousness to discover the absolute truth which only comes from Creator in the first place. It takes coming around again... www.mentalgrowth.com has the clues.

WORRY
by riverview98 (WebMD), 12/31/00 6:38 PM

TO WHOM DO I GIVE CREDIT/FROM WHOM LEADS THE FATAL THOUGHT/THAT BRINGS THE HEART TO FALTER/CAUSING HAVOC TO THE JOY I SOUGHT

MY FRETFUL MIND A HOTEL FOR MANY/AN INWARD CRY,TWIST OF MY MIND/ ROBS ME OF THE GOOD,LEAVING ME ISOLATED/ WITH THE FEAR, CHOKING ME FROM BEHIND/

IT THROWS THE STRONGEST SOUL ASTRAY/ A LIFE-DISTORTER, UNIQUE FROM THE START/ LIFE BECOMES A HORROR OF MIRRORS/SEEING YOURSELF,COMING,GOING,COMING APART/

IT HAS NO BORDERS,HONORS NO CREEDS/ HAVING NO RULES,DESTRUCTIVE HABIT OF MINE/ FALLING VICTIM TO ITS TORMENTING WRATH/ I SO OFTEN,FIND,MYSELF,IN THE RECEIVING LINE/

USELESS WASTE,A PLAGUE BEARING NO ANTIDOTE/ NEVER LIFTING,NOR DRYING A SINGLE TEAR/ EXISTING ONLY IN THE HEART OF IMAGINATION CAPABLE OF TAPPING THE VAST RESERVIOR OF FEAR/

DR.ROY FOSTER: Worry is something one creates. It is a useless preoccupation. There is never a need to worry. It is an emotional state devil-oped (created) through those years of early devil-opment. Worry creates a state of mind which has been altered heavily. It is a burden one carries. It is just another emotion to get rid of. Realize that this is true, recognize where it came from and then look at your personal corrupt life and be truly sorry and you will notice how the worry disappears. By the way this is called repentance and I am not a religious person but live by the true spiritual meaning of Creation.
www.mentalgrowth.com provides a base for conscious awakening and the means to rid ourselves of emotional problems. You will see that it believes in one Creator the same for all.

By the way learn to act and not feel life because it is the programmed feelings which create the fear and worry. Basically fear is a myth and can always be overcome just as mountain climbers are able to do although some must be in a unconscious state of mind because I know that I could never do such a thing. Avoiding anything which might cause fear and worry is helpful however if we avoid responsibilities than we better fix our mental state of mind fast.

Attitude
by medtech2 (WebMD), 12/29/00 6:48 PM

It is not so much that life is either sunshine and flowers or darkness and despair. It is the attitude we adopt. It is the approach we are willing to take again and again. It is adaptability and flexibility with an orderliness that avoids absolute chaos. It is a willingness to see the undesirable in ourselves without labeling OURSELVES "undesirable." If there are behaviors, attitudes, addictions, disabilities in myself that I do not like, I need to recognize them for what they are. Identify and define them. Spell them out. Draw pictures of what they look like. Put them in big, bold icons on a board. Then take a huge eraser and erase them. Now I have taught myself all the bad things. Wipe the slate. Realize that you cannot change the world -- only YOURSELF. See the person you want to be -- and make small definitive steps to achieve just one goal at a time.

DR.ROY FOSTER: I like that. When I write I use the simplicity of the three R's. They represent to me Realize, Recognize and Repent, because without spirituality we will never by fulfilled. It is truly the being sorry for what we turned out to be and then to correct ourselves by eliminating our ego hopefully gives us the results we are looking for in ourselves.

Attitude is how we perceive life and when we create all of those smoke and mirrors and fall into patterns of self-denial do we then have a bad attitude. Yes, perception was one of our original gifts from Creation and for most this is something lost within our emotional lifestyle. Find again the perception and you find that your attitude changes and then no longer is there a negative but only something to deal with.
www.mentalgrowth.com has been my way of providing a place for others to discover my experiences in life and hopefully never to be lost. I have a section on attitude.

Work on the Three R's. Keep a reminder around. Make a poster and place it in convenient places. It will sink in in time however do not Will it to happen let it just come to you.

One in 10 U.S. Kids Mentally Ill

Surgeon General's Report Cites Mental Health Crisis

By Jeff Levine ......WebMD Washington Bureau Chief

Reviewed by Dr. Dominique S. Walton

Jan. 3, 2001 (Washington) -- One in 10 American children and teens
suffers from mental illness -- and just one in five of those receives
treatment, according to U.S. Surgeon General David Satcher, MD, PhD.
Dr.Roy: www.mentalgrowth.com now will serve the youth and help them find absolute truth and discard the hopelessness instilled in them through our dysfunctional endeavors.

In a 52-page wake-up call released today, Satcher calls the situation a
"public health crisis in mental health for children and adolescents."
Dr.Roy: We have had a crisis for many generations and the crisis is now in the adult populace which produce the serious problem we now have in our children. It just did not occur. We have been in denial for generations. The communist manifesto described this in 1924 and has been their goal since. The infiltration of socialism deteriorates the minds of weak people and the number of weak minds grows where the power of liberal-socialism also grows. You now see this in the big cities and for this reason we must stick with the electoral college process. Evil leaders will try to get rid of the electoral college. Watch and observe who they are.

"Growing numbers of children are suffering needlessly because their
emotional, behavioral, and developmental needs are not being met by
those very institutions which were explicitly created to take care of them,"
writes Satcher in the report, which he calls "a blueprint for change."
Dr.Roy: The "taking care of them" is something to recognize as the means for government to take over the minds of the people. The "taking care of them" must go back to the family and therefore the education of "how the mind functions" by way of mentalgrowth.com becomes essential or we remain victims of the many years of spiritual digression. Just like the leadership must evolve from the families on a local level and then gradually move up to higher elected levels rather than giving power to the top and trickling down to the families through local government. Yes, we have it all backwards (upside down) according to the rule of sinisterism. Do you really know who rules America?

Specifically, the surgeon general wants to promote public awareness of
children's mental health issues, reduce the stigma of these diseases, and
improve the ability to recognize symptoms of mental health in children.
"We need to help families understand that these problems are real, that
they often can be prevented, and that effective treatments are available,"
he writes.
Dr.Roy: Yes, the problem is real and we must see where it all began. It began many years ago as the society became overwhelmed in addictions and dependencies. As materialism grew and spirituality regressed we lost values and morality and elected officials who are themselves the leaders of the "cult". We now see a war between good and evil.

The nation's top doctor also takes a swipe at institutions charged with
providing mental health services to kids. The treatment they offer should
be better coordinated and integrated with other elements of the health
care system, he says. Satcher also complains that wide disparities in
children's mental health services exist among racial groups and the poor.
Dr.Roy: It is not just a matter of co-ordination but a matter of the "source" and "intentions".

Another big problem is the stigma associated with children's mental
problems, according to Satcher. David Fassler, MD, agrees. The
psychiatrist is chair of the American Psychiatric Association's Council on
Children, Adolescents, and Their Families and was the APA
representative at a national conference last September's on children's
mental health. Issues raised at that conference served as the basis for
the present report.
Dr.Roy: We must watch carefully how the so-called expert tries to solve the problem especially when it comes to mental growth and mental health. When people are given degrees and are at a dysfunctional state of mind they tend to build upon the power-trip, feed upon their ego and lead a life of sinistersm rather than coming from Creation and a divine protocol.

Refusing to deal with mental illness can lead to long-term consequences,
says Fassler, including poor school performance, trouble on the job, and
low self-esteem. "The good news is that most of these problems are
treatable. We can help all children and adolescents with psychiatric
problems," Fassler tells WebMD.
Dr.Roy: The treatment most likely comes from the "alien movement". We has placed the society in the state it is now. It did not come from nowhere and was designed by sinister powers. Sinisterism rules in a dysfunctional society. Remember it is very difficult to say to oneself, "I am dysfunctional." It is too painful. Man's ego lives through sinister powers and without this energy the ego feels like it is dying and therefore the ability to let go of the ego may never be attainable. Bill Clinton is furthering his addiction to power and you can watch it day by day never to end until something tragic occurs. Just wait and see, because it is inevitable for all those who escape Creator, build a life upon ego needs and pretend that they are for the people, but truly are for their own personal gains.

Among the most common mental health issues for kids are attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), depression, anxiety disorders,
conduct disorders, substance abuse, and eating disorders, says Fassler.
Dr.Roy: Ask yourself. "How come our children have such a a problem?" "What is the cause of it?" You better know..........

Although it takes some skill to sort out which problem is the most
pressing, Fassler says a dozen visits or less to a therapist can make a
"remarkable" difference. In fact, he says, treating children within a family
context can begin in infancy. If a child is biting other children in a day
care setting, for instance, that can be a sign of potentially treatable
emotional distress, he says.
Dr.Roy: We must beware of the underlying desires of the psychologists of today. Their training involves sinister desires and a power trip to manipulate minds especially through children where at this base they can devil-op adult minds which can be easily brainwashed and produce a society full of zombies. At this point the government, similar to communism,can freely rule as tyrants. We now see a government full of corruption and liberal-socialism ready to pounce upon the weak and illiterate. They already control the Black population and even the Jewish vote. This is obviously a trend for the "alien take-over" of the world by way of the New World Order. The way it is accomplished it to instill an "alien identity" into the majority of mind-sets where sooner or later even in a democracy the "mob" rules as the "will of the people" rather than the "will of Creator". We have seen throughout the Clinton administration a trend towards polls because this is how they identify "the will of the people, the mob" with only one objective and that is power rule. We must never forget that dysfunctional families produce dysfunctional leaders who become addicted to power, as seen in Bill and Hillary Clinton. They are basically evil although they are not conscious of this alien power within them. Remember what Jesus said," Forgive them, they do not know what they do." However, wake up to this potential devistating and inevitable regression and do your best to stop it through raising the consciousness of your loved ones, getting rid of addictive habits, drop your ego needs and just wake up.

The report also recommends universal and comprehensive health care for
all Americans. The movement toward providing parity between physical
and mental conditions is gaining momentum, Fassler says, and a
majority of states currently mandate equality of benefits.

And though a number of promising programs, such as State Children's
Health Insurance Program, exist to help parents pay for treatment,
advocates for the mentally ill say that still is not enough.

The new report is an "astounding" step in the right direction, says Brenda
Souto, associate director for child and adolescent programs for the
National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, in Arlington, Va. Still, having raised a
child with an autism-like disease, Souto says the question of funding is
critical.

"There's going to be a whole generation of children who are emotional
cripples and may end up in jail because there were no treatment facilities
available to them. ... It all comes down to the bottom line," Souto tells
WebMD.
......................... © 2001 WebMD Corporation. All rights reserved.

DR.ROY FOSTER: This is a very serious problem. This is the main reason that MentalGrowth.com has come forward with an answer to our American youth. To teach the absolute truth about the "facts of life" and "how the mind functions" is essential to raise one's consciousness and helps to separate the thought process from all of the addictions to life and to bring one towards an inner freedom something most people never discover. If adults have never experienced absolute, this does not mean that our children need to be on that same pathway. What is in "mental growth" is a conglomerate of discoveries which one might not find anywhere else in the entire world. This had not come from Dr.Roy Foster but through him.

You Don't Have to Retire from Sex
Women's Health Place
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:00 PM EDT

By Judy Kuriansky, PhD Event Date: 09/27/2000.

The following has comments by Dr.Roy Foster from www.mentalgrowth.com Without spirituality there is no absolute truth and cure. No, we must retire from sex sooner or later. We must struggle through the animalistic desires which are excitement and feelings not found in the spiritual portion of our human entity. This is a challenge through a lifetime of marriage or otherwise to eventually discover the purpose of being on this earth in the first place. Definitely not to have sex and live from the forces of pleasure seeking. by Dr.Roy.

The opinions expressed herein are those of the guest's alone. If you have
questions about your health, you should consult your personal physician.
This event is meant for informational purposes only.

Moderator: Our guest today is Judy Kuriansky, PhD, an adjunct
professor of psychology at New York University as well as a certified sex
therapist, popular lecturer, radio advice host, TV reporter, and best-selling
author. Her books include Generation Sex, How to Love a Nice Guy, The
Complete Idiot's Guide to Dating, and, most recently, The Complete
Idiot's Guide to a Healthy Relationship. A licensed clinical psychologist,
she is currently in private practice at the Center for Marital and Family
Therapy in New York City.
Dr.Roy: One must be very careful when it comes to sex therapists and psychologists. If spirituality is not part of the "sexual understanding" then beware. Sex is the most addictive behavior near to eating.

Dr. Judy, I'd love it if you'd begin by telling us a bit about yourself and
your background.

Dr. Kuriansky: I'd like to welcome all. I'm delighted to be here for a very
important subject matter, and I am very devoted to happier days for all
Americans and mature Americans, as a great deal of America is
becoming mature. The Baby Boomers are getting older, and want to live
happy, satisfying lives. We're here to say that's entirely possible, and
what to do about the
depression that affects millions of Americans. The
basic message I want everyone to know is that you never have to retire
from sex and love. That often requires making your way through stress,
anxiety, and depression that gets in the way.
Dr.Roy: When it comes to sex, you must be very careful if you are depressed and are suffering from some emotional problems. You cannot use sex and love related sex to solve this problem. You actually cannot use others to solve your problems and actually it reversed where you should be more loving and giving to solve the depression. Psychologists do not truly know what depression is all about. When you discover the truth about depression you can then find your way through it and then truly be happy. Years and years of taking from others, even through the sexual addictions, leads to depressions and anxities. Basically, we have learned everything backwards according to sinisterism. When this is discovered, the three R's must be then the way to go. Be careful not to be wrapped up in sexual behavior and the related so called love which is often just an escape but digging a deaper hole. True spiritual love is a giving and a loving without anything in return, and also does not involve the emotions which come from trauma conditioning. Depression comes from guilt therefore using another person such as in a poor marriage needs to recognize(R) the guilt, then realize (R) the cause of the depression and then being truly sorry, repentance (R)... the latter being the spiritual base to true freedom. Note: Depression is a message, (1) You did not express you anger properly, and (2) you are waking up to discovering the truth about yourself and life in general,, a sadness, therefore needs not be a bad feeling. Medications for this or any "escape" could be harmful.

Moderator: Why do you think that depression in older Americans is so
common?

Dr. Kuriansky: Depression in mature Americans is very common now
because of the tremendous stresses faced with juggling so many balls
and keeping them going. There are many mature Americans still working
at the peak of their careers, and many beginning to retire. Those changes
can be very stressful. On the home front, depression becomes common
because you begin facing illnesses in your loved ones and yourself, and
shifts in family dynamics due to problems with your adult children who
are getting older, the frustrations that grandchildren face, and then
financial stresses that mature Americans face when they want to enjoy
the standard of living that they've had in their life, which can be stressful.
The major cause of stress for mature Americans is change and loss,
losses in terms of career, personal status, family and friends, etc. So
what's important is to anticipate those changes and to do something
about them so the losses become challenges, and so that you gain a
sense of strength from facing and overcoming them.
Dr.Roy: This is not all necessarily correct. Depression is a message, a signal, that tells you that you have not maturely handled the change in your life, and that it is time to look at yourself and see who and what you truly are. Do not medicate yourself through this time and most often the best cure is a good cry. You can relate depression with crying and the depression can be seen to be the "years and years that you have been unable to cry" and "something you have postponed all of your life". The painful childhood years had never been properly experienced but had been many moments of trauma and painful truths. True joy comes from awakenings and an enlightenment to absolute truth and this can be "depressing" of received as an inner joyous awakening to Creation. There is a conflict which must be discovered or one continues on in a life of ego and sinisterism.

Moderator: What are some signs of depression, and do signs differ in
mature people than, say, middle-aged or teens?

Dr. Kuriansky: The signs of depression are a feeling of sadness Dr.Roy: Yes -- or it
can be anxiety, a sense of hopelessness, sleep disturbances (which can
include sleeping too much or too little), and waking up in the middle of the
night or too early, and then there are appetite disturbances which could
be eating more or less and gaining or losing weight. Another sign is
losing interest in the things that gave you joy, including lovemaking.
Another sign is being irritable or aggressive that's uncharacteristic for
you. There's trouble focusing, concentrating, or remembering things.
Another sign is being tired, feeling you don't have the same get up and
go. Then there could be physical symptoms that don't respond to typical
treatment, like digestive problems and other aches and pains. Then, of
course, the most severe would be thoughts of dying or even suicide. I
think for older people, they run the risk of more sadness because of
facing more losses and feeling hopeless about controlling their lives.
Dr.Roy: Most of this are the extention of the depression. In other words, while in a depression the thought process loses control and finds many things to further the pain as an escape to not realize and recognize the absolute truth about oneself, something too painful.

Depression comes from feeling out of control, and a lack of hope about
doing something about it. Mature men and women face that challenge of
feeling out of control. They are also vulnerable to decrease in lovemaking
because of either leftover taboos or feelings that their not entitled to enjoy
sex.
Dr .Roy: Enjoying sex can be a myth just like any animalistic and sensuous behavior. Anything addicting should not be enjoyed in that sense. True joy does not have the feelings which have been created over many years of trauma conditioning even to have come from sinful behavior through a long life of ego growth which leaves mental growth behind. For this reason many religions wish to have their people more conscious (aware) to what is bad with sexual behavior. Yes, it is addicting and anything addicting is dangerous. When one has not come to the absolute truth first then everything else can be addicting (sinful).

They also are more vulnerable than younger people to trouble with
sleeping habits and anxiety. That is to say, that when you do become
depressed as an older person, you should look for treatments to address
these symptoms that stand out for you. For example, that's why I've been
working with Remeron, because it is effective in dealing with the
symptoms of clinical depression that affect older people, like anxiety and
sleeping trouble.
Dr.Roy: What is Remeron... is it a drug? Another escape.

Moderator: As they age, do more women or men suffer from clinical
depression?

Dr. Kuriansky: Traditionally more women suffer than men do, and part of
that is because women are much more in touch with their feelings, and
they're much more sensitive to the emotional aspects of experiences.
Interestingly enough, that is also why women can get help more easily.
Because they are in touch with their feelings, they are more likely to
express these problems and get help, whereas men are more likely to
grin and bear it, and more fearful of sharing that they might be suffering
emotionally. Part of the site that I'm working with
www.MatureAmerica.com and www.BluesInTheBedroom.com, is devoted
to encouraging people to recognize these symptoms early, to know that
they have options for treatment, and thirdly, to speak to their doctor about
it early on.
Dr.Roy: Psychologists and psychiatrists have been brainwashed to use drugs and other means to hang on to their patients rather than telling them the truth from the very beginning. Truth can be painful and if too painful it may even be too late for many because the three R's may be impossible. The doctor needs the patient just as much as the reverse. Money and security comes between the truth and true love and actually destroys any potential spritual relationship never ever seen within the therapies provided by most doctors. There is no cure without spirituality.

slrichar_webmd: I think a friend of mine may be depressed. She lost her
husband last year and hasn't seemed the same since. What fan I do to
help her?
Dr.Roy: When a good relationship departs it is usually painful for a period of time but there should always be a recovery. One needs to see the loss but only with bad relationships, ones that are needy and dependent, do we see emotional breakdowns and often death.

Dr. Kuriansky: First of all, thank you for asking, and thanks for being
concerned about your friend because what is extremely important in
America is that we look after each other. One of the causes of depression
in America is isolation.
Dr.Roy: Not true. The monks isolate themselves and find Creation during their meditative state, alone with Creator. It is healthy to be able to be alone with Creator. If we need to be with someone, it most often is a need and dependency and almost an addiction, and a definitely a sign of lack of faith.

We have gotten away from living as a close
community, so you are already doing your part, not only for your friend,
but for everyone in being concerned about her. 1) You should help to
express to you how she feels -- get her to talk about it. Expression
releases some depression internally. 2) Realize that just listening helps.
Losing a spouse is an extremely common reason for severe depression in
anyone, and particularly for older couples who have spent a lot of time
together. 3) Tell her you understand how painful it is for her to lose her
partner. Read her from this site, now, the signs of clinical depression.
Encourage her to log on to our web site. Suggest further that she seek
some support -- she has yours, but support groups are extremely helpful
for widows and widowers where you get to see that you are not the only
one. Other people share your pain. And they get you going and get you
busy to do things. Even though she will resist and protest about going
out, insist that she come with you to the movies, for a walk, shopping, to
a museum, anything to get her mind busy and engaged. And if she meets
those signs of depression, to see a doctor about treatment options.
Dr.Roy: It is important to feel the pain and suffer before one comes to the realization of truth about oneself. One cannot change unless there is pain because all the years of self-denial and dishonesty (guilt) comes to a head at a time of loss. We all corrupt to some degree and our egos get in the way. Guilt accumulates over years of dishonest relationships and the negative parts of our life must be awakened sooner or later to discover true love and happiness. That which is good and correct is natural and that which has been corrupted needs to be corrected sooner or later or death do us part.

Moderator: Let's talk now about sex, and how this factors in.

Dr. Kuriansky: From a physical and emotional point of view, sex is
healthy for you. By sex, I don't mean to imply that it has to be a certain
kind of intimate interaction. For example, intercourse. I am referring to
any intimacy and loving contact. Too many people as they age, even if
they have sexual desires, stop activity. They may think its inappropriate,
or they may have certain physical conditions that make it difficult. Or they
may be taking medications for other conditions that interfere with their
sexual functioning. Depression is another cause for withdrawing from sex.
And it creates a cycle. The more depressed you are, the less interest
you have in sex, and the less interest you have in sex, the more
depressed you can become.
Dr.Roy: Sex is animalistic and not from the spiritual base of a human entitity. Marriage is designed to make one learn how to control sexual behaviour and change it from an addictive state to something natural, however when related to spirituality it must be something that must be controlled just like eating too much. Because of the nature of the human body, we must all suffer through life learning and learning and learning to simply grow up one day. We can observe leaders and even presidents who never grow up.

suzy2040_webmd: Hey Dr. Judy, I like your books and I am glad to
"meet you." I feel like I don't have as much interest in sex lately. I don't
have much energy. Is it just because I am getting older? (I am 62)

Dr. Kuriansky: Suzy, at 62 you are still young. Make sure you do not
think of that number as a stop sign. You may not have as much energy
as when you were 16, but at 62 you still have plenty. The more active you
are, the healthier you get, creating a positive cycle. The healthier you get,
the more active and energy you have, the more interest you will have in
sex.
Dr.Roy: Sex must never be number one. One should be active in purposeful activities amd always looking to help others. The best cure for any depression is helping others with not expecting anything in return and definitely not sex.

Number one, decide mentally that you are still as attractive a woman
and still deserve being sexual. Number two, do something active. Lifting
weights has been research proven to not only help osteoporosis in older
women, but to give them the energy to enjoy life activities including sex.
Spend time looking at your body and pleasing yourself in the bathtub.
Each time you do that, go a step further to enjoying the sensation. You
don't have to be an energetic acrobat to get the benefits of pleasure from
sensuous sexual activity.
Dr.Roy: Enjoying sensations is addictive. The doctor is wrong here and has not explained how addictive life can be which is truly destructive. Dogs have climaxes and they are not spiritual entities which separates the human being from the animal. There must be a reason for this difference and there is a very good reason.

tenuli_webmd: Is being unable to climax every time during intercourse
normal for a man over 40?

Dr. Kuriansky: Generally, the inability to climax can refer in men to
either ejaculation, or the experience of an orgasm. Many men don't
realize that these are two separate things. If you are having a difficulty in
ejaculating, it could be due to physical causes or emotional causes.
Some men in their 40's start to experience a mid-life crisis called
"viripause," where they panic over their sexual functioning, and this in
itself inhibits either ejaculation or the experience of orgasm.
Dr.Roy: There is a time in one's life, around 35 to 40 years,when one must come to grips with oneself emotionally, to discover how much a jerk one has been for years, how much denial has been accomplished, how much sinfulness has occurred when it comes to spirituality and religiosity, and how wrong one has been in cheating, lying and corruption. If none of the is reckoned with then (reconciled) the mid-life crisis begins and a future of illnesses are to be experienced. Sexual problems come from being unable to discover the three R's.

It's important
to have a physical examination in order to determine if, even at your age,
some medical condition is inhibiting your release (could be some vascular
problem), or, whether medications you are taking are interfering with you
reaching your peak. It has been shown that quite a number of people who
are taking certain antidepressants have trouble with their sexual
functioning. For example, men can suffer with exactly the problem you
describe. One solution for this, is again the same antidepressant I
mentioned earlier, Remeron, which does not interfere with your sexual
functioning. You should discuss all of this with your doctor.
Dr.Roy: Once in the handsof doctors and treating them as if they are gods is disastrous. The cure is within you not any where else. When one has already given one's life to others for solutions there may not be a way back. Through the principle of intake, as long as we take from an outer force, we are in their hands. As long as we do not reach to the inner powers we once had, perception, intuition and common sense, we are lost entitities.

Moderator: Is there any truth to the phrase use it or lose it when it
comes to sexuality?

Dr. Kuriansky: Yes. You may be surprised I said that, but it is true,
because like riding a bicycle, or working out, the more you exercise your
muscles, the more fit they are, and the more muscle memory you have.
On top of this, the more you engage in pleasurable activity involving sex,
the more confident you become, and confidence is key in sex. This is
especially important for mature Americans who slack off having sexual
pleasure when they don't really need to. If they continued and kept their
confidence high, they would be much better off.
Dr.Roy: Wrong. A healthy spiritual mind will always give one a healthy physical body where sexual activity is never a problem. In this healthy state of mind, to have sex or not to have sex is never an issue but something under control.

saralg_webmd: It seems that sex over 65 just isn't discussed. Any
suggestions on finding a health care provider who will address this
comfortably?

Dr. Kuriansky: One source to start is to call the local hospital and see if
they have a sexual health clinic. Many often do. Or a specific sex
counselor. These people would be very open to discussing sex with a
patient at any age. Another option is to contact the American Association
of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists, in Iowa, a 319 area code,
for a reference to a qualified sex therapist in your area. Insurance will
cover this if the person is also a licensed therapist in another area, like if
they happen to be licensed as a psychologist. Some people are and
some aren't. It's depending on their degrees and state licensure. Check
with your insurance company. Some, because of how the HMOs work
these days, have listings for particular complaints, meaning a particular
problem.
Dr.Roy: Through marriage one solves the problem of the sexual addiction. If sex is always a need, then most likely many of life's offerings are addictive and provide a destructive base for no true love, no true joy or no true happiness. Yes, most people have it backwards therefore they become ill and die.

purplehighness_webmd: My husband and I used to have a great sex
life. But as we've dealt with our kids getting older and creating lives of
their own, lots of things have changed about my relationship with my
husband, including the frequency we have sex. Do you think it has
anything to do with the loneliness we've been experiencing since our
"nest emptied?"

Dr. Kuriansky: Absolutely. You're halfway home by recognizing that.
This is an extremely common cause of withdrawal from sex in older
couples. With the house full, there were many distractions. Once the
grown up children leave home, the husband and wife are forced to face
each other, sometimes for the first time in 20 or 30 years since the kids
were born. All of a sudden, with just each other, emotions get aroused.
Angers must be faced head on. And they must address the need of each
other. So knowing this, tell your husband that the reason the two of you
aren't acting like two birds on a tree branch is that you're facing a change
in the stage of life. Knowing this is a common stage of life for both of you
can take the pressure off. Then decide together that you're both entitled
to act like newlyweds. Then no matter how uncomfortable or un-natural or
phony it may feel at first, start really acting that way. Go out on dates.
Call each other up to make the date. Get dressed up just as you did
when you first got together. Sit across from each other at dinner, and
pretend you don't know what her favorite color is, what team he roots for,
what each other dreams about. Ask those questions. And you'll revive the
attraction that leads to more exciting lovemaking and the desire to do so.
Dr.Roy: True love, happiness, and joy are a state of bliss. There should never be any excitement in any of this. Any emotional state is destructive and produces chemistry changes in the body which actually damage organs. The actual process of dying is the many chemistry changes which are produced from emotional states and traumas. Walking around with years of anger and resentment finally leads to a very unhealthy body.

Moderator: Could you share your opinion of Viagra, when can it be
helpful and how can it impact a long term relationship?

Dr. Kuriansky: Viagra has been proven to be extremely helpful for older
men, particularly who have physical causes for their erection difficulties.
In some cases this has been a miracle. For a man to have an erection
when he didn't before because of a physical problem, the boost in his ego
and the pleasure for his partner can give him a total new lease on life and
love. But I must point out some caution. An erection alone does not
ensure pleasure, and the pill itself does not work unless you already are
excited about your partner and the experience. Which means that the
relationship and your mental attitude about sex and love are crucial.
Dr.Roy: A healthy mind and body does not need any drugs. They all have serious side-effects and the results of these are very damaging. The best thing is to do without and find your way back with the three R's.

purplehighness_webmd: How do you know if you're clinically
depressed versus just dealing with daily ups and downs?

Dr. Kuriansky: Clinical depression vs. normal ups and downs would be
determined by how severe the symptoms I listed earlier are, and how long
they last. I would suggest if you fit four or more of the symptoms as I
explained before that persist for two weeks or more, it's time to go for a
professional evaluation.
Dr.Roy: Depression is depression. Find a way to work through it. Do not will it to change but go through the three R's.

slrichar_webmd: These days, it seems there is a quiz for everything.
Have you seen any type of quiz I could give her to take which would tell
her if she is depressed?

Dr. Kuriansky: Use the symptom list that I described above. Print out
this chat and hand it to her and sit and discuss it. Go over not only the
list of symptoms and her questions to show how much you care, but all
of them so that discussion can be stimulated on all these issues about
sex. There is a quiz on www.MatureAmerica.com -- a checklist of the
symptoms that are commonly asked questions about clinical depression,
a description of different therapies for depression including positive
therapy, which changes negative thinking into positive thinking, a
technique I think is exceptionally useful for depression. And we have a list
of references for more information. You can log on there with your friend
and read through there to stimulate more discussion.
Dr.Roy: Realizing what a jerk one has been all one's life is painful. Look at this not as negative but as a realization and a road to salvation sooner or later. With this in mind the cure is in the making.

Moderator: Dr Judy, thank you very much for joining us for this important
discussion. Our guest today has been Judy Kuriansky, PhD, an adjunct
professor of psychology at New York University as well as a certified sex
therapist, popular lecturer, radio advice host, TV reporter, and best-selling
author. Dr Judy's books include Generation Sex, How to Love a Nice Guy,
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Dating, and, most recently, The Complete
Idiot's Guide to a Healthy Relationship. A licensed clinical psychologist,
she is currently in private practice at the Center for Marital and Family
Therapy in New York City. Check out Dr. Judy's columns on
www.MatureAmerica.com and www.BluesInTheBedroom.com. Thank to
everyone for being with us. Log on to our site.
Dr.Roy: Utilize the books from www.mentalgrowth.com and the many other techniques available. Without a spiritual base there is no cure to anything. A curriculum is in the making for our children and young adults. For many adults it is too painful to change.

Dr. Kuriansky: You can have as happy a life as ever at every stage of
life, and you never have to retire from sex!
Dr.Roy: You must retire one day from the animal existence you were alwats used to.

Moderator: Good evening everyone, thanks for joining us!

The opinions expressed herein are those of the guest's alone. If you have questions about your health, you should consult your personal physician. This event is meant for informational purposes only.

Copyright 2000 WebMD Corporation. All rights reserved.

Dr.Roy's imputs are to demonstrate how incorrect the so called expert can be. There is a total lack of spirituality in most psychologists therefore beware. Without spirituality and a recognition of Creation, there is always a lack of faith and from this one's ego rules where ego always has a relationship with sinisterism. If we do not understand the meaning of sinisterism and the powers of satanic forces, then we are never in charge of ourselves but in the hands of evil, such as the doctors. These so-called experts never have the cures. They wear sheeps clothing and sometimes have good explanations but never forget that when they no longer have patients they starve.

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